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That’s why we are accused of being the brides of Satan. They can’t imagine how we have gained our power without having that particular male figure in their equation. It’s a hatred of women at its core. Countless knowledge keepers, herbalists and medicine women have been crushed by their hatred of women.
I am curious how hatred of women became a thing? Or is it just an innate unchangeable part of a subsection of men?
Are like a certain percentage of guys or people just inherently bad? It’s always a huge red flag if I know a guy doesn’t have any platonic female friends.
This is just one story and by no means universal, but I thought it might interest you based on what you’re saying.
Societies can get mental illnesses and trauma collectively. During the closing years of WWII, on the Eastern front, incidents of Soviet soldiers raping local civilian women was widespread. There was a common trope of “hide your women” as everyone from little girls to grandmas were hiding in swamps, trying to make themselves look unattractive by covering themselves in mud, and the like.
In Hungary, if you look at official correspondence, the local authorities were complaining for years after the invasion that their supply of syphilis medicine was out, as the Soviets confiscated most for their own troops, and then the remaining stock ran out fast. Victims were estimated to be in the high hundreds of thousands, in a country of less than 10 million.
And then, as both current historians and people at the time said, there were two ways to process this immense societal trauma. Both for the victims themselves, and the bystanders, countrymen, relatives, lovers, children and parents who could not stop it from happening. One of them was getting a rope. Suicides spiked during those years, and according to, again, the people who lived at that time, this was a main driver. Inability to cope with the fact that they were unable to save their loved ones, or themselves.
The other coping strategy was denial. Denial that it happened, denial that it mattered. There is an acclaimed novel written about the whole thing by a victim, Alaine Polcz, look it up with a translator, who was raped countless times and then had to prostitute herself to survive. She ended up in hospital and came back from being clinically dead at one time, as she had pneumonia, TBC, and a ton of STDs. In her words, she did not feel anger, only pity towards the soldiers committing these unspeakable acts on her. She should have felt anger IMO. We all should. The fact we don’t is the problem.
The point of it is that the part of society that didn’t kill itself coped by normalising the rape of women by men. That it is just part of war, part of life. Imagine how that impacted how both men and women perceive women in general. And we are only 2 generations away from people who lived this. Polcz died in 2007. Many people who lived this firsthand are still alive. The people they raised run the country.
The defining characteristic of teenagers is independence/control seeking. They often reject their parents’ oversight, worldview, and life advice in order to seek out their own path into adulthood. The idea that everything their parents think is wrong and that they hold a deeper understanding of the world is appealing. That takes many forms. For me, it was exploring atheism and art.
In witchcraft, not only do they get that, but also get an apparent means to assert control over the world that they are seeking through various forms (tarot, ouija, and other forms of spellwork and divination). On top of that, it specifically appeals to women through ideas of naturalism, sisterhood, and femininity and has a long tradition of women rejecting the norms of society and being entirely independent. I can see the appeal.
Well, I hate to tell them this, but traditionally, Witches do derive their power from a man. The man who fell from Heaven, and created Hell.
And they say that Goths and Witches are evil. I, as a dude, want to date them. I want to meet women who are strong and independent and need no man. That’s how I know that they want me, not need me.
That’s a refreshingly respectful take.
I know a few Goth women that dislike how their subculture has been the subject of a fetish. But a deep respect for the power and independence of Goths is not the same as the fetishization of a people and comes from a more constructive place, I would guess. Not the same as ‘yellow fever’ for Asian women for example.
Hey, I genuinely believe that self-expression is sexy and metal AF. That holds for goths or drag queens or anyone else, tbh.
It stems from confidence which is one of the traits that people universally tend to find attractive. Be yourself should be rephrased as “be confident about yourself”
And then the men/priests say witches are married to satan, rude!
Such men also say that men are strong and women are weak. Too bad, they are almost always wrong.
Is a witchy phase at all distinguishable from a goth phase?
Cats vs bats.
