• Ilixtze@lemmy.ml
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    Pedophiles and abusers. Conservatives have been investing a lot of money so that pedophiles and abusers are the role models of young men as part of their manufactured culture war. When Javier Milei took power in argentina he already had a network of influencers behind him spewing the values of his presidency: anti LGBT sentiment, scorn for women and feminism, racist rethoric and the openly abusive machinations of free market capitalism. The ideology came first. The looting of argentina followed.

    This has been going on for a while in the US and it has the potential to get way worse. Because this is the official discourse now and children and young men are taking the examples of these adults and reproducing them in equally disfunctional lives.

    Why are we surprised that things are going to shit? People say we are living in the ideocracy, but i think the state of things is way worse. They want to create a society of savages and march us down to self destruct along with their failing system.

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    Oh look — another Conservative pedophile.

    I’m no genius, but I’m sensing a pattern here.

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      Right wing politics in general tends to go hand in hand with misogyny, sexism, and generally treating people as things. Whenever you talk to them they always say it’s a few bad apples, but it seems to be like a third of the barrel.

      Of course it’s even worse with the GOP because they are now actively misogynistic rather than just trying to hide it beneath the surface which is what the right of done in the past. To various levels of success.

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    You know, I haven’t lived a perfect life. I’ve done things that I regret. I’ve broken hearts. I’ve burned bridges. I’ve let people down. These failures don’t define my life, but, like most folks who aren’t complete narcissists or psychopaths, I have my share of regrets. Like most, I’ve had dark moments where I wonder if I’m truly a good person, or if the world would be better off without me. I’m fine now, but life has had its ups and downs.

    But moments like these are a useful salve for such feelings. The regrets I have are a big deal in my life, but nothing compared to this. My regrets are thing like when I’ve burned out of a job due to ADHD, let my coworkers pick up the slack, and then quit on short notice when I hit a wall, leaving them holding the bag. Or when I had to break up with someone I had been with for years, in a relationship where mutual feelings still existed, simply because of incompatible life and relationship goals. Or how, despite all we tried, we weren’t able to save my little brother from the opioid epidemic; the fact that I as an older sibling wasn’t able to save my little brother. Or times I’ve let my spouse down. These are the kinds of regrets that eat at my soul. And I’ve never physically hurt anyone, never cheated on a partner. Just ordinary life regrets.

    Those are the kinds of regrets I have. Those are the things that when I’m at my worst make me feel like a monster. I know none of those are objectively evil acts. But feelings aren’t rational.

    But then I look at someone like Tate. I feel grief and shame for things that aren’t even really my fault. And this man is unrepentant despite a lifetime of committing the most vile acts a human being can commit. Human trafficking. Rape. Child pornography. He unapologetically treated human beings as disposable trash, on a mass scale, and bragged to the world about it. That is a universe of evil that is simply beyond my understanding.

    Some say God has a plan or purpose for everyone. I think Andrew Tate’s purpose, if he has any at all, is to be such a human monster, that ordinary people, healthy but flawed human beings, can get a reality check on their own self-doubts and self-hate. If there is any good at all that has come from Tate’s life, it would have to be something like this. This tiniest of silver linings in cloud of pus and shit.

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      Everyone fucks up every now a and again and I wouldn’t look past that more than it is, and truth be told yours are not fuck ups, it’s just life. This Tate schuck has fucked up far and beyond, that is the difference

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      There is no silver lining. This guy’s crimes extend far beyond him through the use of deceptive propaganda. He has influenced millions of young men to be abusive fucks.

      If society would use him as an example to expose the manosphere and dismantle it, then perhaps that would be a good thing to come from this. Unfortunately, that is not going to happen.

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        I think it’s important to note they weren’t even men when YouTube and Social media started throwing their content at them. The early twenties misogynists were single digit boys when Tate, Rogan, and the rest of the manosphere was thrown on them.

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      As a fellow older brother who lost a sibling in a (kinda) similar way (got my own dark memories there), I felt that.

      But for me it’s just a sad reminder that that what should be an absolute statement can have an exception.

      As in, even saying “I hate humans suffering at all…” requires an “except…” added onto it.

      I don’t have the general self blaming issue though.

      Except for the brother bit specifically. But I give myself a pretty big break for that (unfortunately due to some of the other problems). Not saying it’s better or worse, just different.

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      Well Tate isn’t the best president in the Universe! They all say so. Some say even better. It used to be the best president in the Universe, it’s probably up to multiverse now. Some say it’s multiverse. They came up to me and they say, Mr. Best President in the Universe, how do you do it? I say I don’t know, I don’t know. That’s what they say.

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    He compared the charges to the legal proceedings against Donald Trump

    Oh they’re totally guilty then lmao

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      The other day there was a post where he was shaming Epstein associates and then here he is doing Epstein shit. Andrew Tate deserves no sympathy or mercy.

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    He’s the kind of guy you just wonder when he’ll get sent up on some kind of sex offender charge, not if.

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      I mean he was already arrested for exactly that in Romania and somehow was allowed to leave the country to flee to the US.

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        The Trump administration pulled some strings to make it happen.

        ‘I’ve been told I’ll be free soon but Trump needs to see me in Miami.’

        ~Andrew Tate in leaked texts

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      My confidence in such things has taken a real beating over the last few years. I’m relieved to see him charged.

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        Same. About goddamn time. Now let’s do the rest of them. R or D, I don’t care. You diddle kids, go straight to prison.

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    This puts the US admin in a weird spot. This guy is charged with possessing CA images. Will the USA protect him or hand him over?

    It kinda sets a precedence in a way on if pedos are protected or not. We all know the reality but in such a high profile situation like this where there is a charge and he is not politician what will they do?

    IMO, Given he is partially African American and generally operated out of the UK, they will hand him over, but that sends the very clear message pedos are to be punished.

    Interesting position that’s occurring here (I suspect by design of the UK) . The USA protects its pedophiles, however verbalizing protection of a non white not fully American pedophile is a possible stretch.

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      The US doesn’t protect pedos per se, it protects the disgustingly rich and those connected to them.

      It’s just that there’s a great deal of overlap between that group and the pedos

      I suspect Tate is not in the obscenely weathy group, or he wouldn’t have been imprisoned in the first place.

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        I don’t disagree with your assessment…but the fact they elected one to the highest office is a pretty powerful message (on normalization) to the rest of the world.

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          You seem to focus too much on the pedophilia. It’s not that these people like pedophilia. They like the rich. And if the rich are pedophiles, who cares, they are rich.

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            The love of rich is stronger than the hate of pedophiles, yes that is how it looks.

            I can’t understand it personally. Only one of those is actually a despicable crime. Worshiping rich is people idiotic to me, letting them be above the law, on that kinda crime goes well beyond idiotic.

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    Joseph D McBride, the Tates’ lawyer, told reporters that his clients were innocent. He said: “They’ve never done nothing wrong. They shouldn’t be extradited for crimes they didn’t commit. It’s garbage. It’s a stitch-up job.”

    Well Joseph is correct on half of that comment… The double negative “they’ve never done nothing wrong” is entirely correct, and he’s also right that they shouldn’t be extradited for crimes they didn’t commit. There’s plenty of crimes they did commit that they should be extradited for.

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        No no no, the lawyer isn’t Christ. According to the lawyer, its the J6 rioters are analogous to Jesus Christ.

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          McBride hosts a YouTube channel titled “Judgment Day With Joe McBride.” He claims that someone attempted to assassinate him for his role representing January 6 defendants by remotely taking control of his 2020 BMW X5 M-Sport and attempting to cause him to crash at high speed. He additionally claims that in the aftermath of this assassination attempt, his 2020 BMW X5 M-Sport would only drive in reverse, and that he drove from the Fort McHenry Tunnel to Washington D.C. (approximately 39 miles) in reverse.[39]

          He additionally claims that he simultaneously experienced Lyme Disease, Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, the Epstein-Barr virus, and long COVID after being vaccinated for COVID-19.[40]
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_D._McBride

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          Batshit insane. Should probably be locked up alongside them. Thankfully the UKs legal system will take one look at him and politely tell him to fuck off.

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                I guess when you look up someone and find a bunch of info that you are reacting to, and you describe your reactions to us, it would be very bro of you to drop them same links so we can share the experience with you instead of telling us to just Google it, like we would necessarily find the same info.

                😘❤️

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          Obviously that he is a very serious, well respected, and not crazy legal professional whos car just happens to be possessed by the spirit of Antifa or possibly Satan.