• JonsJava@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    You have been reported for trolling.

    Please follow the rules, and defend your opinion, or I will be forced to remove the post.

  • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Nope! Factually and objectively wrong, no opinion involved.

    If it isn’t connected to the internet, it isn’t using any hosted services. The “stealing” argument, while still wrong, can only be argued if using their hosted services.

    This claim is the same as claiming it is stealing if you don’t turn on and use a TV, despite owning one.

    • 🍉 DrRedOctopus 🐙🍉@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      from what I’m aware of.

      modern TVs are sold at a loss because they then profit of your data.

      if that agreement was explicit, I would consider “not connecting it to the Internet” stealing, but a good stealing.

      but it isn’t explicit, so it is more like you pritecting yourself from data theft

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        6 months ago

        odern TVs are sold at a loss because they then profit of your data

        I strongly doubt that. Maybe they sell at a lower margin to keep competitive, but they’d never sell at a loss. Okay, on paper maybe because they know exactly how to tune those numbers. But in the end, they make profit.

      • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        My arguement is they sell TVs at a loss, expecting to make it up with my data.

        But they don’t sell any TVs that DON’T do that.

        I’d easily pay $20,000 for a 200 inch dumb tv at 8k, BUT THAT DOESN’T EXIST!!!

        So I have to make due with a dumb projector.

      • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        Right, what you agree to is clearly described in legal terms in the product EULA, there is no room for opinion because it is all very well defined. At least for my Roku TV, the EULA includes no kind of mandate for internet connection.

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      6 months ago

      Tipping is for exceptional service. If I rented an apartment and my landlord gave me two apartments instead I’d probably tip him.

  • Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    I might agree with you if it was possible to buy a modern TV that didn’t have any smart features, but since you can’t the only way to get a TV that acts as just a TV is to never connect it to the internet. In addition, if the manufacturer actually cared about requiring me to connect it to the internet to spy on me they would have made me sign some contract to that effect before I purchased it. It’s not my fault if they don’t profit off my purchase if I don’t use it the way they want; I’m not the one who set the price.

  • Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca
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    6 months ago

    I’d consider it to be protecting my own right to privacy; but if you really want to frame it as stealing: I’m glad to be doing so. I’d even say stealing from these companies is a moral imperative.

    Are you doing your part? Or have you spread your cheeks for corporate America?