• UnspecificGravity@piefed.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    270
    ·
    7 months ago

    If we emptied the account of every rich asshole like this we would achieve the same thing AND lose a whole class of dickbags that think they should be in charge.

    • mushroommunk@lemmy.today
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      112
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      7 months ago

      The top 25 US billionaires could pay off US debt. Not even every billionaire. They total about 3 trillion net worth.

      That’s ignoring say the $60 billion or so Apple has in cash and who knows what other companies have

      • timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        7 months ago

        Nitpick- that is the deficit, not the debt. Like elsewhere said, debt is near 40 trillion.

        Otherwise I still agree with the suggestion.

      • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        7 months ago

        $3 trillion is only enough to cover the annual deficit (that’s how much the debt grows by each year). Oz doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

  • aesthelete@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    67
    ·
    7 months ago

    Adding $3 trillion in GDP would not remove the debt anyway. Assholes like this one don’t even understand how GDP is calculated nor what it means.

      • MonkeMischief@lemmy.today
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        7 months ago

        “We’re all in this together.”

        “You’re an essential worker.”

        “We’re a family.”

        Telltale signs of a malignant sociopath.

    • ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      12
      ·
      7 months ago

      It’s beautifully wrong on so many levels.

      1. Increasing GDP doesn’t address the debt crisis.
      2. The debt is WAY bigger than 3 trillion
      3. As long as Trump is in office, the debt will grow, and nothing can be done to change that.
  • SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    67
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    7 months ago

    Doctors I trust more than Doctor Oz, Doctor Phil, or RFK Jr.

    Doc Brown

    Doc Hollywood

    Doctor Bombay

    Doctor Claw

    Doctor Demento

    Doctor Detroit

    Doctor Dirty

    Doctor Dolittle

    Doctor Doofenshmirtz aka Dr. D or just “Doof”

    Doctor Doom

    Doctor Evil

    Doctor Feelgood

    Doctor Frankenstein

    Doctor Hannibal Lecter

    Doctor Horrible

    Doctor Jekyll

    Doctor Leonard H. “Bones” McCoy

    Doctor Martens

    Doctor Moreau

    Doctor Nick

    Doctor Otto Octavius

    Doctor Pepper

    Doctor Scholl’s

    Doctor Orin Scrivello

    Doctor Seuss

    Doctor Spaceman

    Doctor Spock

    Doctor Strange

    Doctor Strangelove

    Doctor Who

    Doctor Zhivago

    Doctor Zoidberg

    Dr. Dre

    Dr. Enuf

    Dr. Tran

    Rug Doctor

    Even Nurse Ratchet

  • jontree255@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    44
    ·
    7 months ago

    “Please stay in the corporate meat grinder so we can have enough money to fuck kids then bomb them”

    • cAUzapNEAGLb@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      7 months ago

      Just as a heads up, you dont need to carry a balance and be charged interest - you can pay off your cards each month, and thus never accumulating interest, and still have an improved score; simply pay the statement balance before the due date

      • Tower@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        7 months ago

        I’ve seen people have their cards cancelled for doing this. Rare, but not unheard of.

        • twack@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          7
          ·
          7 months ago

          If you’re doing that you have zero need to bow to any single credit card company.

          I don’t even read 90% of the credit card offers I get, I have plenty of cards, and they are all at zero. Go ahead, cancel me. I’ll have a new one in 15 minutes.

    • marcos@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      7 months ago

      Well, actually yes, countries paying down their debt is not a good thing.

      But they can switch the debt into a form that doesn’t pay any interest.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      12
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      7 months ago

      Americans are trained to believe that our National Debt is some kind of foreign imposed obligation that comes with the threat of sanctions and military intervention if we fail to pay it. Because that’s how we handle debts international, it must be how we handle debts internally.

    • BillyClark@piefed.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      7 months ago

      If the government has more income, that just means they have more money to give to corporations and wealthy people.

      • CaptDust@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        7 months ago

        Because you give them the money, then they use it to generate even more money for the country?

        It does come back through taxes? right?

        anakin_padame.jpg

      • FiniteBanjo@feddit.online
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        7 months ago

        But this doesn’t give much more income to the government. Even if $3 Trillion more dollar circulated, disregarding job market dillution and lack of skilled labor, then the GOP defficit adds about a trillion per year and this would only generate about 15% taxes on those wages and other wealth transfers or only 450 billion.

        Also, that 3Tn number makes no sense because each of 4.5M 18 year olds would have to generate $666,666 revenue.

  • Soup@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    32
    ·
    7 months ago

    We’re constantly more productive and never see a reduction in work hours, only more work. You bring this up to one of these fucks or their simps and they say “sure, but when will the work get done?” as if that comment makes even the slightest amount of sense.

    The very first thing we all need to do is stop working so hard. The rich don’t have any real skills and they have no power without the people they exploit.

  • Doomsider@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    28
    ·
    edit-2
    7 months ago

    Garbage people produce garbage ideas.

    Why not pay off the debt by reducing military spending by 90% for the next thirty years. We would still be in the top three countries for military spending.

    This shitty idea is a thousand times better than anything Oz could come up with.

    • BanMe@lemmy.world
      cake
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      7 months ago

      Also, you know, making the rich people pay even the same taxes WE pay, let alone the 50-90% marginal rates from decades ago, when the country was strong.

  • Gorilladrums@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    27
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    7 months ago

    The thing is that he’s right, but will these sleazy fucks do anything to actually make it happen? Well let’s see what they’re to implement…

    • A universal healthcare system so Americans are healthier and less stressed? Nope
    • Free college so Americans can start their careers as efficiently as possible? Nope
    • Free universal daycare for all American parents so they could focus on their careers without being to stressed about where to take their kids? Nope
    • Raising the minimum wage to something livable so people don’t depend on government programs? Nope
    • Investing in public transport so people can more reliably commute to work and find new jobs? Nope
    • Strengthening worker rights to ensure that workers are taken care of, thus ensuring their longevity and productivity? Nope
    • Passing union friendly policies while prosecuting union busting businesses to make sure American workers feel their hard work isn’t being taken advantage of? Nope
    • Regulating hazardous workplace conditions to ensure the safety of workers? Nope

    So what they fuck do they mean by this? They clearly don’t care about the debt or the well being of Americans since they’re not willing to do anything about either. No, what they want are results without any of the work needed to achieve it. They’re not looking for a more productive economy, they’re looking for slaves.

    • French75@slrpnk.net
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      31
      ·
      7 months ago

      The thing is that he’s right

      He’s not right. The national debt is way fuckin bigger than 3 trillion. He’s also wrong in presuming that an infusion of productivity (tax revenue) can “solve” intentional over-spending. He’s just a serial scammer spouting uninformed nonsense to stay relevant.

      • Zannsolo@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        7 months ago

        While we do overspend the bigger problem is we under tax, specifically the rich. Our debt payments are also getting out hand which is going to be a big problem.

      • Gorilladrums@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        7 months ago

        You’re completely right. It won’t solve the debt problem, that can only be solved with a redone trade policy. I’m just saying that in the abstract, its a good direction to go in IF we implement the stuff that I listed in my comment. People will work better if the system works for them. It currently doesn’t, and people are just trying to survive.

      • timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        7 months ago

        Honestly, those are important arguments and people would be wise to make them.

        Outside this bubble that kind of talk is very accepted and desired. Convincing people it’s better for the economy, starting a business doesn’t risk losing healthcare, businesses now don’t need to waste time and money picking health insurance plans, etc. Are all valid arguments and would only help achieve the end goal of universal healthcare.

        • GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          7 months ago

          Well, the same applies to social services (welfare) and education, and the rich and powerful already know all this. So why do you think they don’t want us comfortable, educated, healthy, and secure?

    • Karjalan@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      13
      ·
      7 months ago

      That’s what happens when you give the richest people tax breaks and subsidise all your rich buddies endevours without uplifting the lowest socio-economic portions if society.

      The best way to fix the economy is always to give the poorest more money (or less financial burden) because they spend a much higher percentage (usually all) of their excess income to keep afloat or improve their way of life.

      The worst way is to give rich people more money. Because they horde it, gamble on non tangible goods (stocks, crypto, “ai” etc), send it off shore, keep it in the family and share it with other rich people etc.

      It’s ironic that the party that always does the worse thing for the economy and demonises doing the best is seen by the masses as the “good for the economy” party.

  • IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    17
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    7 months ago

    Fresh out of highschool? Wtf… Are kids really not getting jobs while still going to highschool anymore…

    We were getting jobs as soon as law allowed us.

    Am I out of touch or is this guy just an extreme privileged cunt?

    • NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      20
      ·
      7 months ago

      He’s super out of touch, I had a part time job when I was 15 at a Dairy Queen. And as far as I’m aware, that’s still pretty common.

      • moody@lemmings.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        7 months ago

        Some people do, for sure, but lots of people don’t get a job until college age, or in some cases until after graduating.

    • MonkeMischief@lemmy.today
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      7 months ago

      Am I out of touch

      No :)

      is this guy just an extreme privileged cunt?

      Totes!

      Although, my experience definitely differed. I tried the “Get a job out of highschool” thing, but there were lines around the block consisting of former cubicle-dwellers with 3 kids applying to my local In-N-Out Burger, so stuff was bleak. I was fortunate I was able to wait a little while.

    • Fluffy Kitty Cat@slrpnk.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      7 months ago

      not as much anymore. it’s hard enough for a grown adult to have a 20 year old car and an entry level service industry job, which I hear from boomers is what they could afford with a part time job in high school.

      some teens still work but usually only if their families really need the money. middle class teens are told to laser focus on college resume padding, so grades and extracurricular are what they end up doing. parents worry that a job will distract from algebra homework, and football or marching band looks better to prestigious colleges than McDonalds (non adult directed activities aren’t counted at all)

      I didn’t get my first job until after I dropped out of college

      • MonkeMischief@lemmy.today
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        7 months ago

        (non adult directed activities aren’t counted at all)

        I guess this closes certain avenues of BSing the system but also, wow that feels crazy arbitrary and unfair. Damn, it makes a lot of sense that this would be some kinda unspoken rule of what counts.

        Not to be too conspiracy-brain but it really fits that notion that modern schooling exists solely to subsidize corporate recruitment.

        “We made our own film/robots/fundraiser/business!” 👎👎

        “I did several months’ worth of free labor for a wealthy multinational conglomerate!” <br>😎<br> 👈👈

          • MonkeMischief@lemmy.today
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            7 months ago

            Cool. I agree. Was just covering my butt online, I suppose.

            Especially because I don’t want to come off as anti-education or anti-intellectual, but the gatekeepers to that education are so beyond corrupt at this point.

      • IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        7 months ago

        It’s wild to me that kids these days expect their parents to pay for their college. I worked for like 8 years saving money before I could go to school.

        Now I’m not even using my degree and barely making enough money to exist.