

WhatsApp has this weird grip on my country’s people, it’s insane.


WhatsApp has this weird grip on my country’s people, it’s insane.
They don’t owe the requester any consideration.
That’s not true, but would be bad if it was. Communication always should be two-way considerate, otherwise we will quickly descend to hell.
Regardless it’s not unreasonable to expect you to your fucking ducks in a row before you bother people.
It’s also not unreasonable to expect that you’ll be able to quickly answer if you’re open to communication.
You’re going to have to provide the information anyway.
Or don’t if it’s time sensitive and you’re not answering. Context, nuances, remember?


Or the ability to write what they mean, it’s one of the two


You’re again thinking of a on-the-ground civil war between a community and an oppressive government. That didn’t work well in the age of steam trains and single shot rifles, it sure as fuck wouldn’t work in the age of satellite tracking and grenade carrying flying drones.
If you have to fight an icetapo agent on the ground, you’re already lost, the only way to win is to create the world where icetapo agents are tried in a fair court, and put in jail for their crimes. Admittedly, it’s hard to do when agents shooting people on the streets, but well, Americans collectively decided to play this encounter on hardmode by willingly and knowingly electing all of that, so what can you do.
Yeah, well, in which case reading five words is even less of a task, and if it’s a struggle for you go finish fifth grade.
Everyone is entitled to their own time, you’re not the center of the universe. Right now you’re way past a normal consideration, you’re demanding that everyone sacrifices all the convenience however small, so you don’t have to sacrifice any.
If you’re busy af, you can respond “busy right now, sorry”, we just discovered that typing takes no time so it’s OK. If you’re busy but not that busy, and someone asks do you have some time, you can always answer “depends, what’s the question?”, which also takes no time from you, so it’s OK once again.
That’s the whole thing about two-way communication, it’s actually as flexible as people are, which is just great if you’re one of those peoples. Personally, I chose to be maximally considerate, and I always type as much as possible so there is as little mental effort required on the other side of the conversation. But that’s because I’m a no-life shmuck, and I (maybe actually in big part because of that) doesn’t actually value my time and it’s not worth much. If I had any self-respect, I would be way more pushy about my time, and there would be times where I start conversation with “hi, can you talk right now?” instead of two paragraphs of formatted text
If you look at it from other perspective, typing the whole paragraph of details just to be ghosted can also feel disrespectful as fuck, while “Hi, can you talk right now?” is actually pretty normal.
There is no easy and universal answer, it’s all depends on context and the situation, just like anything else in human communication.
The objectively correct from a selfish perspective here, is to send “ping” and only type out the whole request if you respond. Yeah, it will make you wait, but it will save me time and mental effort at typing all that, knowing that it’s all for nothing if you will not respond in time.
The correct answer here is to do “Hi, need to talk to you about [thing], are you available right now?”, but it’s technically speaking only one step above this hateful “Hi”
You assume that everyone is replaceable and you can just message whatever to whomever.

You specifically, explicitly, didn’t do that
It’s a handshake. If you’re out of the office or otherwise can’t respond, it saves them from typing the whole message, they can do it only if they know you’re responding.
It’s still offloading the inconvenience to you a bit, but at least it’s rational for them


I see your point, and it’s a valid one. It’s just so exhausting that you need to be an expert in the thing you hate and that’s obviously destroying society in order to talk about it’s effects on society. It’s like that with gun-nuts, if you don’t know the specific differences between AR-15 and M16A1, you’re not allowed to have an opinion on how easy it is for a child to get one and societal problems stemmed from it.


I’m afraid you used brain destroying machine to destroy your brain, and now this is the level of comprehension we’re working with. It’s sad, really. You should be glad that gods don’t exist, otherwise they would be very disappointed.


Despite what your clanker wifu told you, just saying the word “strawman” doesn’t actually constitutes as a proper position.


Is that what you think being said to you? Is that what you consider an appropriate response? Damn, that’s even worse than I thought.


If I go to the restaurant and order something, is that counts as me cooking? How many times I need to point to the waiter at the menu and ask them to bring me something, until I am officially count as a professional cook? If I ask them to make it less salty and add cheese, is it counts as the restaurant employing me as a chef or only as a liner cook?
Just in case your chat “research” fried your brain completely, and it needs to be spelled out: no, to be called cook you need to cook the food. To do research you need to do research, not ask a word prediction machine to do it.


Not enough, not quickly enough, and often not in the ways that matters


Yeah, the guy’s credentials should be scrutinized if not revoked. This is a disgrace.
And it’s the one who is public about it, imagine how many of his colleagues do the same, but have enough brain cells left to not actually brag about it


“ChatGPT, write a paper about how you deleted all the previous papers you wrote for me”
Oh, I love competency porn! My favourite is Martian, both the book and the movie.