Iran re-closed the Strait of Hormuz Friday instead of heading to Switzerland for nuclear negotiations, citing Israel’s refusal to pull forces out of southern Lebanon and US forces’ ongoing presence in the region.

In a statement read over maritime radio channels, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) said the US was in violation of the memorandum of understanding between Washington and Tehran, which President Trump and Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian signed Wednesday.

“Since Israel’s withdrawal from Lebanon, the complete lifting of the naval blockade, and the withdrawal of American terrorist forces from the Persian Gulf and the region are among the main conditions of the agreement between Iran and the United States, the Strait of Hormuz will remain closed until these conditions are met,” it said. “All ships are requested, for the sake of their security and safety, not to approach the Strait of Hormuz. Any vessel that defies this directive will be targeted.”

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    Netanyahu literally cannot pull his troops back. Any peace time for Israel means autopsies on the conflict and the whole Israeli government getting charged for war crimes. Governments understand this and it’s going to be Western governments stepping aside and withdrawing their money to allow Israel to get flattened by the regional powers. I don’t like the Israeli government, and there certainly are a lot of supporters in the region (probably over 50%), but we’re probably about to see a whole bunch of innocent Israel citizens being vaporized as well.

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      but we’re probably about to see a whole bunch of innocent Israel citizens being vaporized as well.

      Maybe they shouldn’t have been openly celebrating in the streets when they were bombing Gaza.

      What goes around comes around.

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        They have government-sponsored observation decks where you can watch Gaza through fixed telescopes while passing a blunt and cheer as bombs drop.

        It’s really a mystery that nobody likes them, huh.

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      I think you have an oversized confidence in our international justice system. When the good guys commit genocide or war crimes, no one goes to the Hague. Cases in point: Indonesia (twice over), Guatemala, the war on “terror”.

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      It’s not even that complicated. If he lets Israel off a war footing, he’s in front of the corruption court that he’s attempted to subvert multiple times.

      If Israel ever charges anyone over the actual war crimes, I’ll eat a bug.

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      Not sure if I understand what you’re trying to say. My read of this MOU is that the US is pulling the plug. Israel is already overextended in Lebanon, and they for sure can not fight Iran without the backing of the USA.

      And even if they had that backing, interceptors are depleted and radars destroyed. Dimona got hit with a nuclear-capable rocket loaded with sand, a clear message which they know how to interpret. They’ll keep testing the waters with Trump for a bit, but the US will clarify to them that they really aren’t bluffing with this MOU.

      Israel has no right to be butthurt that they didn’t get a seat at the negotiating table. They’re a proxy, not a partner. They are living way beyond their means and that’s coming to an end. Their bluff has been called. Now they need to stfu and do as they are told.

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      There are no innocent Israeli scum. They are all guilty of the rape and genocide of real Semites (Palestinians).

      Israel can have its peace when every last motherfucking zionist is all dead.

    • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
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      Lmao at that subscription model they have. They offer 2 subscriptions for more than twice the price if a single one for “serious investors”.

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    Hopefully this helps drive a big wedge between Israel and the US. Lets stop giving them any weapons and aid. Tired of my tax dollars supporting a rich country dead set on genocide. Israel can handle their own affairs.

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      USA and UK created Israel for a reason, and they’re fine with Israel’s actions.

      Israel is doing what it was created to do.

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        Correct. It’s not just Trump, it’s an entire generations-long policy norm to suppress peace and sovereignty across the middle east that passively scapegoats and endangers jews all over the world as consequence, perhaps intentionally. Pretty sure that Israeli money still funds the majority of both Republican and Democrat campaigns in congress. We need a whole-house cleaning, Israeli lobby funds from any sources need to be popularly seen by voters as a hard disqualification. Jewish voices that oppose genocidal Israeli domination narratives need to be amplified and normalized.

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        The Soviet Union was the first country to recognise Israel as a state, and the biggest original supporter. Link

        The US became a pivotal supporter only after 1967. (And that’s when Israel allegedly became an asset)

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            Britain got tired of having their people killed by the local terrorists and left. That’s not pre-recognition of the government that those terrorists later set up.

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        Yeah it is kinda interesting to see people act like Israel has suddenly commandeered the US, as if they aren’t both colonial projects acting like colonizers, and building mural alliance on the grounds that you know, they wanna do colonialism shit

        Theres a guy I follow online who always describes it as “the tail doesnt wag the dog”, where the US is the dog, and Israel is the tail, which is an interesting metaphor I haven’t heard much before,

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        Hanlons razor: “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity [or incompetence].”

        The US and the UK just didnt care about the Palestine area. It was a mess and had little strategic value. Israel is not some puppet of the west, thats absurd, and your stance has always been a way to wash Israelis hands of their own war crimes by attributing it to others.

        Either way we can both agree that Israel and the US/UK should NOT be politically aligned and should go their own way. And whichever of those countries then violates universal human rights should be dealt with very harshly by the entire international community. Held at gunpoint North Korea style until they grow the eff up. agreed?

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          Hanlon’s Razor doesn’t always apply these days, especially when we’re talking about literal fascists.

          These are malicious people, of course we should be attributing the awful shit they do to malice

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      Israel has Epstein’s blackmail against Trump.

      The only way the US withdrawals support from Israel is after Trump either leaves office or croaks. He doesn’t care if the entire country runs out of oil in >4 weeks. He’ll destroy the country forever, all because he’s a child rapist.

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        Does the blackmail even matter anymore? Bibi could drop 4K footage of him doing the same shit documented in the files and I’m convinced he’s not leaving office until he dies or is forced out.

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          I mean, if it didn’t matter then why is the demented child rapist still withholding and censoring the Epstein files?

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            Because there’s a chance it might matter and he’s not prepared to take that risk

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      That might be what Iran is thinking with this. Israel’s continued existance is incompatible with peace, so splitting them off from their sugar daddy will help

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        America needs sweeping changes for sure. Hoping for a collapse would be catastrophic to 300million, and life alerting for even more. They don’t exist in a vacuum.

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          Sure, you can reform the country founded on genocide and slavery, which still practices both to this day. Good luck!

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    Watching the US get its economy shredded by a pedophile would be a lot more entertaining if I wasn’t a participant in that economy.

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    Trump claims Iran deal is ‘unconditional surrender,’ says his power has ‘no limits’

    did not help either

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      This moron can’t stop running his mouth. A person like this can’t handle diplomacy - his fragile egomania will always get in the way.

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      Let’s be real though. Iran expects Trump and Netanyahu to keep sabotaging this deal one way or another and is fine with them manufacturing consent to close the Strait and bomb more US/Israeli assets.

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    id say this is 3d chess but its more like being a nation-state 101. Iran expertly played israel and america off eachother to get exactly what they wanted and give neither america or israel anything, all while driving a wedge between these two assholes.

    it would be impressive if they pulled this off against highly-capable nations with well developed diplomatic corps. As it stands it kind of feels mean to big up Iran for dunking on what are effectively two asshole toddlers screaming about their toys

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    On the bright side, green energy is looking better and better each day the straight remains closed.

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      It’s amazing that people don’t recognize the actual freedom that generating your own power gives your country

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      Yeah, Trump may unintentionally start the end for the fossil industry. Which is kinda ironic.

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      In other news “Americans to see extreme spike in electricity costs”.

      I guess I will just die. Might be cheaper.

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        The closure of the strait impacts helium supplies used for chip manufacturing which will impact data center build-out, so maybe the result is lower electricity costs overall.

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      If the straight remain closed, gay sex should look better and better, too /j

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      Which won’t be long, hopefully.
      Come on, Death, do your fucking job!!

      (Though an excruciatingly painful and debilitating illness is much preferred. I’d wish a long life to the Donvict if that happens)

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      As much as I fear the consequences this will have for the economies of the world, especially poor countries who will get hit the hardest, I enjoy watching Trump and his friends get humiliated. They deserve it.

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    Israel is the Main Culprit keeping the ECONOMICALLY NECESSARY Straight of Hormuz closed? And because of that the US Economy is going to be DEVESTATED? Quick! We MUST give the Israelis MORE US Taxdollars and MORE US Military Intelligence!

    -The US Congress LITERALLY!

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      Those days are over! Say no to Israeli funding and YES to merging the military industrial complexes together so that you’ll never know where the money goes, let alone stop it.

      AIPAC is also dead! Long live a thousand innocent sounding organizations with “fundraisers” instead. Nothing nefarious, all above board. The most moral people work in the darkness in case you didn’t know.

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    The US is less than 4 weeks away from losing all of its oil reserves.

    If the Zionist pieces of shit thought support for Israel was obliterated before, its about to be 0% for anyone who isn’t a billionaire

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      I can’t fucking wait. The US will treat distance the same way Europe does when oil prices skyrocket. Then maybe we will see the end of urban sprawl.

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      Oil reserves? The US is a net exporter of oil. The prices are only up because our government prioritizes oligarch profits over the people’s well-being.

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        The US exports the wrong type of oil that they’re running out of. Their refineries are built specifically for the oil extracted from the Middle East and retooling them to accept American oil is just out of the question since it’ll take too long before they run out stockpiles.

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          I’d love to understand the logic behind creating an industry where we don’t refine our own oil and instead export it, and choose to import other oil that we do refine. It seems very counterintuitive.

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        Sure, and the Irish were still exporting massive amounts of food during the great hunger.

        Both exporting oil and nearly depleted reserves can be true at the same time because of the absolute global refusal to learn from history.

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          Same with China under Mao’s Great Leap where the country was exporting wheat to the USSR during a massive famine.