Precisely. That makes the palestinian people the descendants of the Torah folk.

Thanks for correcting me on the DNA part.

For the islam convertion, the people living in the region converted after islam was created obviosly.

Good to know. Thanks for the correction.

My heartfelt condolences.

Sure, they are the protagonists. The people who remained there after the Romans destroyed the place just converted to Islam. Most current Jews are other ethnicities that converted to judaism afterwards.

What’s your preferred choice?

It’s more vote against red, no matter who., really. Sad, but true.

Not going to deny that. But before they get dismantled, they are wont to blow something up. As a dying breath sort of thing. And that worries me,. so I’d rather the death were peaceful, or at least as much as possible.

So I am not from the US. So I don’t really suffer from their actions. Just indirectly, but not much. I am really fucking lucky.

When you take that out of the way, almost everyone in the world would be better off if Trump weren’t president and the republicans were not in power. So I would really fucking like if they vote the least of two evils, because I am not interested in a 3rd world war to get me out of my misery before global warmng gets to us because they keep voting the stupid reality denying party.

Literally. There are two parties, One is clearly worse. That’s all there is.

There are two parties because the electoral system in the US creates an advantage to having two and only two parties. If they change the system, parties will appear. If they don’t, any new party will at best supplant one of the current ones, but it will fall back to two parties anyway.

Has the republican party stopped the genocide? Or improved the situation at all? If not, you have to choose according to the rest of the policies. It sucks badly, but there is literally no other option.

There are only two parties, either you prefer one to win, or you prefer the other or you don’t care about which. There are no more voting options and the booth and it’s preparations are times to be pragmatic.

No, in fact they are the agressors. And while pro-Israely politics are the same across both parties, the rest of the policies aren’t that close. As I said, they are not good, just much better than the alternative.

I see. You are happy that Trump won. Also that the democrats lost the senate with Obama and Trump got to appoint 3 Supreme Court justices. You could have started there.

No. What is happening now is blanket criticism of the party, which is does not apply at all however you want to read it. You want to critisize specific politicians for specific actions, go ahead, want to organize primaries to get them out, perfect, want to start movements and pressure groups to change their policies, fantastic. But just saying democrats bad is 100% counterproductive, which has been my point from the start. Again, this is not the democrats are good, but they are significantly less bad than republicans and all actions should go through getting republicans out of there.

Look. As long as there are only two parties and one of them wants to turn the US into a dictatorship, there is not much more you can do. That’s not a failed lesson. There are many opportunities to act in between elections, but come election time there is none. You can die smug knowing that you were right once you cannot vote or you can live pissed because the less bad alternative still suck hard.

Also, the democratic party has never had the control of congress and presidency for more than two years in a row. Not that I have much hope, but losing 4 elections in a row (two full presidencies) should at least have some impact on the republican party. And that’s without taking into account that women, POC, LGBTQ+, immigrants, … would have a much, much better life even if you maintain the status quo but with the democratic party.

Again, it’s a shitty option, but there is literally no alternative. And focusing on democrats on the opposition and blaming them for shit instead of republicans in government who are actually doing the things is playing into the hands of the republicans, which by the way could remove Trump today from the presidency if they wished, so it’s the whole party’s fault, not Trump’s.

Oh, cool. We are already starting the preparations for pushing all work and blame on the democratic party and then make the election about them only. That won’t drive people to the republican party or not to vote. It’s not like the country is facing a now absolutely uphill battle to remain a denocracy.

Jesus fucking christ. If there ever was a moment to close ranks and act as a block is now. That plus active action if possible, but at the very least support the non-dictatorship party. Not like the other one is better in literally any single issue.

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