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  • We(average people) dont choose to offshore those companies. We only wanted to stop climate change.

    Everything went offshore because the world’s countries added regulations and policy to try reduce emissions and manufacturing became cheaper in china because they did the opposite and raced to the bottom. China was in climate talks at the same time and was more than developed enough to have been making similar changes. Instead they went in the opposite direction. Intentionally deflating currency, scaling coal,mass deforestation, lying about emissions and policy direction.

    Why would i ignore all that and blame individual international companies that are just trying to make and sell product? Thats nitpicking tiny parts of a large problem.

    If its ok for china to do what they did then why is nz implementing climate policy? What’s the point we hurt ourselves for a 1% reduction only to have china increase emissions by more than out total emissions in a single year. If thry do make changes no one should and they didn’t. We are fucked unless china can actually make a serious reduction in emissions which thry seem completely unlikely to do in the next 5 years.


  • A company moving their steel plant offshore is a negative for that country. So the country isnt going to want to drive it out just to brag about a co2 reduction. The company might brag but so what. If the company wants to claim 90% reduced emissions by getting rid of their steel mill to a subsidiary company thats a different more.pointless argument imo.

    China gets a huge advantage from having the steel plant in their country and the wildest part to me is that people will even defend them when someone points out that they are already polluting a ton and should take measures to reduce pollution instead of subsiding coal plants and more steel mills.

    Those same people will turn around and say nz needs to axe its own industry to reduce emissions even though our emissions are tiny and not spiraling out of control. Its the most cucked stance and causes me psychic damage.



  • Actually western countries are completely blameless here. Why would western countries be blamed for Chinese emissions? Western companies could be blamed sure but when it comes to climate we expect this to be handled at a policy level. When we look at this issue we see that Western countries did make policy changes that hurt their manufacturing and growth in pursuit of better climate change outcomes but china didnt. So when it comes to blame no one forced China to undercut manufacturing by artificially deflating their currency, lying about climate change goals and having no environmental regulations. China could have implemented environmental regulations and labour laws on par with the west. They could have started transitioning to renewables a decade and a half earlier. They choose not to and they choose to scale coal knowing the damage they are doing to the world.

    Hell they still lie about their climate change impacts and sponsor green washing propaganda media overstating their progress. Their emissions graph looks like the stock market and when it drops .8% “people” act like its about to come crashing down.

    There is no way we would talk about this the same if Europe got rid of their min wage,labour laws, environmental laws, and invested in non clean energy and manufacturing.



  • [–]Reblyn 381 points 3 hours ago

    Reddit or social media in general should be the last thing we switch, simply because we need to reach as many people as possible. If we give that up too early, the movement dies instantly. You cannot convince people to switch if they can’t even see your posts.

    This is half right half cope. You aren’t forced to use a single social media. You can switch while remaining.

    Also I cracked up seeing someone say “as a Lemmy user” then noticing their name was guillotines now. Very on brand.








  • Film is a great way to show you an experience that may expand your perspective. The viewer is usually challenged by this as they have to empathise with a person outside of their comfort zone.

    A good example is when a character first comes off as bad and you have to really feel his situation and empathise with him to understand why he made the choices he did and two people might walk away thinking different things about if he was right or wrong. This is a lot more involved than non challenging films where the intentions are out in the open.

    Theyre fun if you’re in the mood but theres nothing wrong with chucking on something mindless, entertaining and enjoying.