Instead, in stories like last week’s “Student Debt Burdened Them, So They Moved Abroad and Stopped Paying,” you get characters like 37-year-old Amanda Lynn Tully, who “graduated in 2017 with a master’s degree in historic preservation from the University of Oregon, $65,000 in federal student loans and no job offers in the conservation field.” Tully, reports the Times, “felt misled” and so “made a drastic decision: She moved to Prague, where she had completed an internship, and defaulted on her loans. She hasn’t made a payment in over seven years.”
Right off the bat, something seems off. Tully, the Times tells us, grew up in Colorado and “spent her teenage years as a ward of the State of Colorado and believed a college degree was her ticket to a better life.” That sounds like an incredibly rough way to start out, but how did we get to Oregon and graduate school so quickly? And then there’s this:
Ms. Tully was on an income-based repayment plan, which allows many borrowers to have their remaining debt forgiven after 20 years of making qualifying payments. She was paying $60 per month when she defaulted. This amount, to many, may seem manageable. But for her, it remained psychologically burdensome.
But for her, it remained psychologically burdensome.
Guessing you have a problem with that?
I very much have a problem with someone who borrowed money to get a graduate degree in “historical preservation,” ends getting a super low payback plan of only $60 a month, yet decides to skip out on that because she felt it was “psychologically burdensome” to her.
Besides the fact that I agree college costs are too high, and there needs to be better solutions to that, I just can’t sympathize with someone with that attitude. I know working people who struggled to put themselves through college, working multiple jobs, pursuing degrees to actually improve they chances at a better job.
But the person in the article bails on $60, which is probably less than that she pays for her phone. Graduate degree in Historical Preservation.
You don’t have a problem with that?
I know working people who struggled to put themselves through college, working multiple jobs, pursuing degrees to actually improve they chances at a better job.
“I suffered so now others have to suffer too!”
I want people to be educated no matter what, and it should be free to everyone anyway so yeah, I have a problem with your complaining about something that has 0% effect on your life.
And your elitist attitude is exactly why Trump became President.
I also believe education should be free, but if you borrow money to do something, you should pay it back. I paid my college loans back and they sure as fuck were more than $60 a month. But you know why I paid it back? Because I borrowed it. And when I borrowed it, I knew it had to be paid back.
Here, let me borrow your car for a few days. But never actually give it back to you. That’s ok,right? Bro, can I borrow your house for a bit? I won’t give it back to you though, because the thought of that would be psychologically burdensome to me. You don’t mind tho, right?
All housing should be free. So give me yours. I promise you make more money that me. And you know what? That’s unfair. Don’t you agree that everyone should have good salary? So let’s compare paychecks, and then you pay me some of your money so that we can be even.
Free housing, free transportation, equal pay. I love it. Let’s have you be the one to step up and start this trend. When can I come over?
And your elitist attitude is exactly why Trump became President.
Oh no my european ass fucked up the last 100 years or so? No wait that was you guys. You’re speaking as if those owed are gonna starve if they don’t get her 60 bucks a month. Money is a mental construct and transportation and housing could all be free if people stopped being dicks and trying to enrich themselves instead of just doing it for the sake of it being a good thing to do.
money is a mental construct and transportation and housing could all be free if people stopped being dicks and trying to enrich themselves instead of just doing it for the sake of it being a good thing to do.
I agree. But bro, don’t just talk about it on Lemmy. Let’s do it. For real. So we’ll start with pay. You need to give me some of your pay to even out our salaries.
I also need you to pay half of my plane ticket costs. Because you and me are gonna share rent and rides. Now here’s what we are gonna do, we have to convice all your friends to do the same thing. We need to get to a place where everyone has equal housing, rides, and pay.
But you are gonna be the one to start us off. YOU! I mean, you believe what you are saying, right? So step up. When can I come over?
Sounds great but I’m in a back-to-work benefits program because of an injury and live in my parents’ guest room after coming out of a foreign prison so I don’t think I’m the one who needs to start sharing (or somebody you’d want to actually talk to in the first place)



